‘Bible Codes’ Predict A Comet Will Smash into us in 2012
I actually think this post is appropriate for April 1st because this seems like a big joke to me, but perhaps my readers know more about this than I do.
I love the History Channel, most of my TV watching occurs on that channel or the science channel. Today, I stumbled in this show (don’t buy this DVD, I just couldn’t find another link to the show) about a code that has supposedly been embedded in the hebrew text of the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament. This was the first I had ever heard of such a thing.
Apparently, whoever wrote those books was an extraordinary person (or persons). The author(s) had the ability to know the future and then embed their knowledge of these events which have yet to occur into the text of the Bible using a very sophisticated code. This code is so sophisticated, you actually need present day computers to decipher it.
Using some sort of ’scientifically verified’ mathematical algorithm, ‘researchers’ are running a Windows program (it may be included in Vista, try looking under ‘Accessories’) that will coax more information from the text of the Bible. All you have to do is type in a search term like ‘world, trade, center, tower, tower’ along with some numbers (I have no idea where those come from) and out pops what looks like the solution to a word search puzzle:
Image Credit: Roy Rienhold
This is a representation of the output of one of those windows programs. Apparently, it is the detail of the predictions that everyone is so excited about. For instance, it mentions airplanes and Osama bin Laden by name.
Curiously, this same information can be obtained by running this algorithm on Vanilla Ice’s repertoire. Perhaps Vanilla Ice helped write the Torah. That would explain much about the current state of religion.
Well, guess what? That’s not all.
There’s a comet that is predicted to hit us in 2012 which is to bring us to ‘The End of Days’. Not surprisingly, there is also a prediction from this code that a comet WON’T hit us then.
Isn’t that convenient?
This is the first I’ve ever heard of this stuff. Anyone else out there know about this? My immediate reaction is that it’s a bunch of crap. A red flag goes up immediately when proponents of this stuff start screaming about how it’s ’scientifically verified’, whatever that means.
If I remember correctly, didn’t the ancient Jews, from which the first five books of the Bible came, follow an oral tradition of passing down their knowledge from one generation from the next? Or am I confusing that with the Talmud? If the first five books of the Bible were propagated using spoken words, then I find it incredible that there is a code embedded in that text because the words would change from one telling to the next, as anyone who’s ever played a game of telephone can attest.
If they weren’t handed down orally, then the authors of those books, in order to embed future events within them, would have had to work at - not just telling the story at hand - but to also cleverly hide text within those words. So clever that only 21st century computers could decipher.
Why hide these at all? Why use a code at all? This is important information, why would there be a need to hide it in any fashion? Am I missing something? Oh right, this is April 1st.
Whew!
I’d love to hear what you guys think. We have until 2012 to sort this out. Or not.
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22 opinions for ‘Bible Codes’ Predict A Comet Will Smash into us in 2012
Sam Wise
Apr 2, 2007 at 5:22 am
I think it’s more than a little sad when the History Channel airs junk like this. You can glean all sorts of “predictions” from any sufficiently large body of text. Similar software has been used to make “predictions” from Moby Dick, by the way:
http://cs.anu.edu.au/people/bdm/dilugim/moby.html
Sam
julie
Apr 2, 2007 at 7:33 am
Wull, to believe in it, you’d pretty much have to think there was something mystical in it, like that God put his/her/its divine inspiration, his holy thumb-print in it. But even from that vantage point, ummmmmm, it still seems dumb.
You know, people claim that there is bible code in there for the prediction of hitler and all the wars and for 9/11, etc. Hell, I bet my birth was predicted in there. I bet YOUR birth is predicted in there. I bet it predicts the first moon walk, both of them, Michael Jackson included. OMG, now I am creeping myself out! Oh, hold me, Tony, the world is coming to an end soon–it is just like in the Left-behind series!
julie
Apr 2, 2007 at 7:42 am
http://www.satansrapture.com/doomsdayclock.htm
julie
Apr 2, 2007 at 7:55 am
(see above link) Holy crap! w00t w00t, d00msday!
We are ticking down to an Armageddon! Better party ya’all like it’s 1999.
Frederica
Apr 2, 2007 at 11:15 am
My oh my. If this is all true, that means I only have five years to get that spaceship project of mine completed. Dang !
Frederica
Apr 2, 2007 at 2:36 pm
…if you look long enough at the picture, you can see a sailboat. ;) :P
Tony
Apr 3, 2007 at 1:05 am
@Sam: Thanks for that link. Yes, I had heard that in the show I watched. They mentioned something about predictions from Moby Dick.
@Julie: LOL! Yes, both of the first moon walks were mentioned I’m sure. I love how there seems to be predictions on either side of an event. Like the comet: there’s one that says it will happen in 2012 and another that says it won’t. Well, alrightly then. The world most definitely is coming to an end.
@Frederica: I saw the sailboat and a bunny too. Save me a seat on that ship willya?
Thanks for the comments everyone. Julie pointed out to me that this is old news, these ‘codes’ have been around for several years. I’ve never heard of it though and I’m counting it as a good thing because it means I’m not part of the ‘in’ crowd at the Bigfoot/Elvis/Lochness Monster/Bible Codes convention.
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Apr 17, 2007 at 3:00 am
LOL@Julie. The link you submitted successfully portrayed Tom Cruise at the antichrist. I believe I will die in peace, now.
However, on a more serious note–if any of us are really Christians–and if any of these Christian scholars are REALLY Christians–then they, and we would know that the Bible stated that even Jesus, Himself, doesn’t know the day the world will end. Only God does. It also states that man will not know until it happens.
So, why are Christian scholars spending their time and our hard earned money trying to pull rabbits out of a hat?
Becky
Jun 3, 2007 at 12:33 am
While it is true he said only the father knew, the old testament had already been written. Who is to say it wasn’t in his will to encrypt it there for us to find when now.
Richard Perez
Nov 2, 2007 at 8:34 pm
End of an age not the end of the world people go buy a submarine like the rich folks. You really think if a meteor astroid or comet were to collide here you would ever hear about it. Your just a bunch of dumb cows. Now get back to work before our economy declines anymore.
BobR
Dec 10, 2007 at 12:09 pm
This (Bible codes) was a big rage among new believers about two decades ago. Those of you who are acquainted with the Bible know that it isn’t given to know the time of the second advent. But the signs of the times will make it clear that it is close “at hand”. Actually the false predictions and your wondering at them are one of those signs. Close is obscure. A day with the Lord is a thousand years so you might deduct that a hundred years could be ‘close’. More to the point is that we live a short time here. If you haven’t made a decision about eternity you should read the Bible (directly, in your own language) and consider it. No decision is a “NO” for God, and a thumbs down for the decider at the Day of Judgement. Looks like to me on an individual case basis to give everyone a hearing might take more than a thousand years. (Day[s] of the Lord) Don’t break the Lords heart. Try John 3:16 (or John 3:36 if you must!) to start. Roy Rienhold is a mathematical genius, and a good hearted christian man to my knowledge, but random characters isn’t Gods way of dealing with folks, He’s fairly direct.
Always a bride, but never a brides maiden. The real reason I’m writing is over this last summer and continuing with fall, there is a HUGE morning star here in Cherry Valley California. One of you other math whizzes figure the longitude and latitude for me. I’ve gone on line to look for a conjunction, or a historic orbital coincidence, but get zilch. Was’up? Am I to ignorant to know that this is a common phenoma, or are you all looking the other way and if this is Roys Comet its going to be GIGANTIC by 2012! Now it rises about 3 AM and is easily visible well into the sunrise. Space junkyard, ISS Lab, Charlies MTA train, What is it?
Any help appreciated, you may even address it to: idiot-if this is an early sign of Alzheimers for me. JR Richmond, Cherry Valley CA, jimbobber@verizon.net
PS, National Geographic is currently pushing a new “Gospel of Judas Iscariot” found in an old rubbish heap somewhere along the Nile in Egypt. Police would say, “Bad chain of custody.” Two things; Judas commited suicide concurrently to our Lords death on the cross. Judas hung himself with a rotten rope that broke. Secondly, Judas never told the truth (gospel) to anyones knowledge in his entire short life. Just a ‘heads up’.
Erick Aguirre
Dec 26, 2007 at 9:09 pm
The World will END, when it’s your time to go!
Richard Perez
Dec 27, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Everybody dosen’t live in the same world. This is easy to see by how one thing is preceived differently by different people. In my world God is my savior so my world will never end.
TT
Jan 12, 2008 at 10:34 am
I am not too sure about the hidden codes in the Bible. One would think that something so important should be clearly stated in the bible and not in some hidden code. Like , for instance, how the bible states that in the last days that The Gaza Strip will be forsaken (Zeph. 2:4). and how in the last days Israel will be split. And how in the last days that Jerusalem will be divided. And, how the one responsible for this division will be destroyed. Now lets look at some recent history. In 2005 the US played a key role in the destruction of the Gaza Strip. Two weeks later Hurricane Katrina hit The US. If this was the beginning of the 7 year biblical “Tribulation”. 2012 may be a very ugly year. Better yet. If the US continues to encourage Israel to give up its land to establish a PLO State, things are going to get very ugly for the US. and Soon.
If you do not care to investigate hidden codes then at least take some time and study what was given to you in black and white.
To all who believe in a divine creator - PRAY!!!
Sam Wise
Jan 14, 2008 at 6:09 am
Wow, TT — so much… enthusiasm, and so little background.
Let’s start with Zephaniah. For starters, Zeph. 2:4 doesn’t state that the strip will be “forsaken,” the word used (at least in the translations I have at hand) is either “abandoned” or ” deserted.” Some thoughts on this:
1) This verse comes in the context of a big section discussing judgements to be visited on Gentile neighbors of Israel, Gaza then being part of Philistia. This doesn’t seem to be a good fit to current events.
2) The Israeli military pulled out of Gaza, but the strip wasn’t “abandoned” or “deserted” (much less, as you stated, “destroyed”) — last time I checked, quite a few people still live there.
As for the division of Jerusalem, it also seems to be in one piece. Perhaps you’re privy to some information that the rest of us are lacking here.
I guess my point, TT, is that if you’re going to quote from the bible, and lecture people on your view of it, perhaps you should start by actually reading it yourself.
Sheesh…
OptimisticallyREAL
Mar 7, 2008 at 11:59 am
Religion………..the greatest farce of all. Faith = worst word in teh dictionary. I have faith that if I drop a quarter it will go to the ground. Only because it’s proven that it will happen. Hope is a better word to use when describing feelings towards religious doctrines. Belief and faith in religion is just that…a wild hope. Proof?= Talk to God and you’re considered holy but the first time you tell others that God spoke to you, you’re put in a rubber room. Why? I’ll tell ya why….cause yer crazy as a bedbug.
Andrea
Mar 12, 2008 at 1:00 am
Did you consider perhaps that the codes were not consciously written into the text by the author? One could call those codes coincidence, another could claim they are the result of some unconscious connection with a higher power - whatever you believe in and how you phrase it. Personally I consider the war between science and religion a case of tomato-tomato (this particular phrase of which would have a slightly greater impact would that I could illustrate the two different pronunciations through my keyboard). I don’t how many times I’ve witnessed people argue over an idea they are actually both in agreement with.
Speaking the Truth
Mar 19, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Correction: The Torah is NOT an oral tradition. According to Hebraic history it is the law given meticulously to Moses on Mt. Sanai to take to his people. It is the law by ALL men are commanded to live by forever, without exception. Even the revered Yeshua the Hebrew Messiah (not the bastardized Roman version adaptation of their paganistic Mithra they’ve named Jesus!) lived his life according to these laws. According to tradition, hebraic scribes are to copy any of this text EXACTLY as originally written. Therefore, IF there is any validity to these codes, they would only work in the original texts and NOT in any translated versions. Just some info. :)
Matthew
Mar 23, 2008 at 1:10 pm
What ever the codes are it is an amazing coincedence that you can make any sense out of historic events, present events and maybe, possibly future events, with some mathematical algorithm, however my concern is that people who are into this code stuff will look to the Bible and use it for something that it was not supposed to be used for. The Bible is the best book in the world, its the way the God communicates with his people, it also spells Good News (Gospel) for people like me, who need a Saviour. I do not think that it should be used as a device to conjour up some doom and gloom ideas, about past events and future events. I guess that is what scares me the most is not the actual events that these codes might bring to the surface, but the knowledge that these people have, and how they go about misusing that knowledge. The Bible is full of doom and gloom profitic nightmares, we do not need the codes for that, but it is also full of hope…. and everlasting life.
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Apr 15, 2008 at 12:52 am
It’s nonsense. You can use just about any text large enough to come up with the same kinds of messages. Give this program enough letters on enough pages and you can make it say anything you like. Let’s also not forget that the Bible WAS NOT WRITTEN IN ENGLISH and has MULTIPLE incorrect translations from the original Hebrew all over it.
Any real code would also have to take into account how the words would be translated. The whole thing is impossible to believe unless you have blind faith that it was all set up by a “divine power.” Unfortunately that doesn’t help anyway since, as stated above, you can get the same results by using this program on any large piece of literature.
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