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The Physics of Spiderman 3

by Tony on May 5th, 2007

250Px-Amazingspiderman50Now, before I get started, let me just say that I’m NOT one of those guys who sits in a movie theatre yelling, “Oh come on…” or “You gotta be kidding me!”.

I love science fiction and, to a lesser extent, the comic book stuff. I see all the movies and read a great many books. I think science fiction plays an important role in our overall scientific progress.

I’ve only gotten really irritated by bad scientific scripts a handful of times:

  • In the first Superman movie, Superman flew around the Earth so fast that he stopped its rotation and made it rotate the other way, which somehow made time go backward.
  • Malcolm MacDowell’s character in Star Trek: Generations had a gun that would stop all fusion in a star, basically turning off like a light bulb.
  • The Core. All of it.
  • The upcoming movie Sunshine, where the cast of characters has to re-ignite the part of the Sun that is dying.

I’m more than willing to suspend my disbelief when I watch SciFi or read a good book. I love good stories because it’s fun to make stuff up.

Nothing in Spiderman 3 was all that bad, and nothing as egregious as the list above, but it did have a lot of misconceptions, stereotypes and, well, a terrible script, especially when it came to the science stuff.

For example, towards the beginning of the film, Peter Parker and Mary Jane are laying out on a web in Central Park, watching a meteor shower. For this, I gotta hand it to Peter, that’s a great way to spend a night out with a girl, it has always worked well for me.

So as Peter makes his move on Mary Jane, unbeknownst to the hot and bothered couple, something plops down on the ground about 100 yards away in a puff of dust.

Plop. Puff of dust.

As the camera slowly pans over to the whatever-it-was, we look inside a small hole, and see a meteorite about two feet in diameter, glowing and smoking.

Meteorcrater-1At this point, God bless him, my 12 year old son sitting right next to me laughs out loud. It was one of those big John-Cleese’s-Centurion-in-Life-of-Brian laughs that can be heard throughout the theatre because he knew that a meteorite that size would do a hell of a lot more to Central Park than plop on the ground.

I know, that’s not such a big deal, but I was gratified to watch my son’s reaction.

Then, a bit later in the movie, there is an escaped criminal running from police, when he stumbles upon, wouldn’t you know it, a particle physics lab. It’s just sitting there, somewhere in New York, when the bad guy, while looking back over his shoulder, falls into it. He falls into a the strangest looking particle accelerator I’ve ever seen. It looked like a big MixMaster full of sand.

Coincidentally, the particle physicists are about to start doing what particle physicists do: mix sand. Sand? I know, I didn’t know they cared about that either, but apparently the Higgs Boson is in it and can be found if you just stir hard enough.

One of the more competent physicists yells out amid a bunch of noise, “The mass of the silicon has changed!”

Apparently, the criminal had a high silicon content and his silicon must have added to the sand’s, alerting the scientists.

Sadly, another yells out, “It’s probably a bird, it’ll fly away once we get started.” Was it a silicon bird? That would be an interesting discovery all by itself. Further, the criminal must have been pretty thin to have mass comparable to a bird’s.

OK, I know I’m just being an asshole, but why don’t they have any cameras in the sand vat? Wouldn’t they want to watch what’s going on? Why are they doing this in a big, exposed hole in the ground? Why the f&*k would a particle physicist be so interested in sand? Is it because sand is made of tiny granules that remind them of subatomic particles?

I realize that this stuff was set up this way just to get the guy to turn into the Sandman, and I’m willing to go along, it just made me laugh.

I love the idea of a particle physics lab sitting in the middle of New York where all the experiments are performed in a big hole full of sand. Physicists should be more careful when they put their stuff.

Finally, there’s Peter’s physics professor. Apparently, Peter Parker is majoring in physics and he brings the stuff from the meteorite to be examined by his professor. Not batting an eye, he gets out his trusty microscope (standard issue among physicists, I guess) and starts studying it.

His conclusion? Whatever it is really “likes” Peter Parker, and…

“Don’t get any on you.”

I can sense a Nobel prize in this guy’s future.

For what it’s worth, and for reasons not really related to the above, I didn’t care too much for this movie. The script was just too contrived, some pretty incredible things HAD to happen in a certain way at a certain time to certain people to get the plot moving and everyone had to make up with each other at the end. We have to have that goddam closure, don’t we?

I’m also getting really, really tired of watching Spiderman save that screaming Mary Jane. Jeebus Peter, can you imagine what she’ll be like when you get into an argument? Talk about shrill. On the bright side though, the sex’ll probably be nice and loud.

I imagine the movie will make ton of money and people will see it several times and never notice the stereotypical comic book science. They’ll go away thinking big ass meteorites will hit us in a poof and particle physicists are looking for stuff in a big sandbox. I guess that’s just the way it is, and it really doesn’t harm anything. But, I have a blog and i wanted to say my piece.

Enjoy the movie. Just don’t get any on you…

Spiderman image credit: Wikipedia

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9 opinions for The Physics of Spiderman 3

  • Shannon
    May 5, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    Maybe those physicists were actually planning something for some sand castle building contest. We all know how you brainy types like to play in the sand, don’t deny it. And maybe sand really is hiding the mystery of Higgs Boson, Scientologists are hiding the mysteries of the universe in Tom Cruise’s massive head afterall, anything is possible.

    And oh my god am I glad to hear I’m not the only one who finds Mary Jane’s screams annoying. In the second movie I just kept hoping for a sudden case of laryngitis. And why can’t she get at least one good punch in. Even Parker’s Aunt fought harder then Mary Jane did. She at least got the good doctor upside the face with her umbrella. All Mary Jane can do is scream, loud and long. While I suppose the sex would be a perk, the neighbors have got to be annoyed.

  • Jason
    May 7, 2007 at 1:45 am

    I had the same reaction to some of the “physics” in this movie, better to just quietly let it go and enjoy the theatrics.

    However, if the writers went through the trouble to get at least a passing understanding of the Stark effect for the n = 2 levels of Hydrogen, I would think they could do better than that “oh it’s just a bird” line.

    I was also a little annoyed at how a dump truck full of SAND was handy when the SANDMAN needed an escape. Please.

  • The Homely Scientist » Movies get science wrong–it’s okay, really
    May 7, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    […] Tony over at Astronomy Buff went to see Spidey 3 recently.  I haven’t seen it yet, but will probably go soon–maybe even this weekend.  Regardless, like a lot of SciFi, sometimes the “sci” is way to “fi”, if you catch my drift.  How many times have I been watching a TV show or movie and just groaned at the science (or shear and utter lack there of) in the program?  I’ve lost count.  I think the same thing happens to Tony: I love science fiction and, to a lesser extent, the comic book stuff. I see all the movies and read a great many books. I think science fiction plays an important role in our overall scientific progress. Source: Astronomy Buff - The Physics of Spiderman 3 […]

  • william
    May 7, 2007 at 7:58 pm

    rofl omg tony you so nailed this movie in badmovie.org fashion its hysterical..i couldnt help thinking the same thing when the would be sandman climbs a fence in the middle of manhattan (wasnt he just at his ex-wifes apartment 2 blocks over?) and “plops” into an OPEN AIR particle accelerator of all freaking things! HAHAHA! Anyways, with all due repsect, I give Sam Raimi credit for keeping the tongue in cheek science of the golden era of comics in tact but, I must admit, my intelligence was less assaulted by the poorly conceived Dino de Laurentis version of Dune (very sad b/c Frank Herbert was a freakin’ genius, the Tolkein of scifi really)! Anyways, great job on the blog! Keep up the astounding work!

  • anonymous
    May 9, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    All of the things you mentioned were adaptations for the movie. They all happen in a different way in the actual comic books.

  • Aaron bernstein
    May 21, 2007 at 9:33 am

    SHUT UP AND JUST WATCH THE MOVIE

    this was pretty funny though

  • shrik
    Jun 3, 2007 at 5:32 am

    Found this post while searching for other blogs on Spidey3, and loved it! Subscribed to your RSS feed.

  • Sid
    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Just wanted to say that I agree with you. It annoys me as well when they make the movies so unrealistic.
    What annoyed me most about Spiderman 3, though, was that the plot made no sense whatsoever and it seemed like it was slapped together by a bunch of 6th graders.
    Cheers

  • clayton
    Jan 5, 2008 at 12:17 am

    lol wow i agree man i dont think that a giant sand box in new york would go un noticed and their certinly would be more then a fence and btw 2 foot meteorite would screw up like alot of buildings im ain the 8th grade and i know that but this was genuinly funny

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